for the following products
3-(2-Morpholino-thien-2yl)-5-(2,5-dihydro-4-methyl-2-morpholin-1-ylidene-onium-thien-5-ylidene-1,2-dioxo-cyclopenten-4-olate and 3-(2-Morpholino-thein-2-yl)-5-(2,5-dihydro-4-methyl-2-[morpholin-1-ylidene-onium]-thien-5-ylide